korklord doesnt have the right story. basically kaichu said that sunny was cheating on her bf at the time with another dude and kaichu told sunny's bf to try breaking them up. sunny said that the door had a ring camera so she said to show the ring footage if it really happened, but kaichu couldnt. the story about the "talking shit behind their back" was back when sunny, kaichu, jason, oscs, etc were all friends still. but basically during that convo, kaichu was talking shit about arky, oscs, etc and talking about how she was using them for clout (i dont think they talked about sunny cus sunny was there iirc but not sure)