Simp Chat VTuber Sinder - Discussion Thread

Mostly just learned that behind the scenes there's a lot of plastic and mean girl drama which truthfully isn't a surprise. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
I'm gonna put my tinfoil hat on and say it was a forced apology to avoid a posible defamation lawsuit
 
at this points i dont really think she care about it that much i saw a clip from shylily that she apology to sinder in private sinder took the apology but say to something equal to i forgive you but i dont forget to what you did and to be i can understand like your reputation got destroy your "friend" gang up on you took a months from streaming fans and artist got shame harass and doxx for supporting her so i really dont have any love for nanoless after all of this and also maybe i think nanoless is need for money because this apology just came out of nowhere
 
nah its still all true. nanos just apologizing for her part in everything since she was the one everybody was gossiping to and it was her speaking out in the first place that turned people against sinder.

the rest of the stuff varies from person to person. though shes still just as weirdly obsessed with copying silvervale IMO but thats a whole other mess i suppose. its just been long enough now that there are people who think sinder was a 100 percent victim who did no wrong when that is not the case at all.
 
Like the guy above me said, learn to proofread dude. I think I nearly had a stroke trying to read this shit.
 
honestly weird that nano saod it noe cus like most if not all have moved the fuck on i mean even vienna and tricky have moved on from this
 
Nano def had an issue with being both unprofessional, and, too wishy-washy with her opinion on being "exclusive only to Sinder," or not. She couldn't commit, and, Sinder and Red kept gaslighting her into agreeing to it, without, outright stating it directly. It was a ton of petty, passive-agressiveness, alluding to it, without, outright stating it, and, Nano backing out of an exclusivity agreement and NDA, once rubber met the road. Nano is def guilty of that incompetence as well. Nevertheless, Sinder is in no way shape or form innocent of wrong-doing in any manner. She still fucked over an entire friend's group, brutally fucked over and gaslight both Bao and Silvervale, and, let her schizo, delulu boyfriend, run rampant with his delusional tirades of paranoia, which, inevitably, fucked her friends over. AND, to top it all off, she STILL stuck with him and kept him as both a mod and bf...that's it, nothing else needs to be said about her character.
Sinder still fucked Bao over by not telling her about knowing far in advance that Nano was going to cancel her model, she fucked over Numi by not telling her until the last minute that she wouldn't perform and be a part of her concert b/c she prioritized business and the VCard drop over a best friend's concert, which, she admitted to, and, she fucked Lily over by trying to take over that spot and not being forthright about it all from the get-go as well. Let alone, constantly trying to capitalize upon Silvervale's success by endlessly trying to push business for both of them b/c they're both "wolf VTubers," and, Silver saying that she didn't want any semblance of a "transactional relationship" with anyone ever. If ya'll think that Sinder is vinidcated b/c Nano owned up to her own shortcomings and extended an olive branch of peace to Sinder, ya'll are delusional. Sinder is guilty of a shit-ton of wrongdoings and fucking her friend's over past a shit-ton of shitty behavior, over the course of YEARS. Her friends were just far more accommodating and understanding regarding Sinder's constant shitty behavioral patterns, while, always disgusing and hiding behind the veil of the "girl next door" persona. Sinder's mentality is still in high school, and, I have zero faith that she's matured and changed from anything from last year. Case and point, she's still with Red, and, she's still half-assing her Fansly content
 
Big agree. Its okay to apologize for your actions but it doesnt mean her actions were somehow justified
 
Well anyway hopefully maybe her accepting Nanos apology will motivate her it I making better content:COPIUM:
 
It looks like she is still in third place on the leaderboard with just under 19 hours left. She made a post saying that if you tip 25 dollars on the post before tomorrow you get a video of her bouncing around in her cosplay from earlier this month. Hopefully somebody is generous. She also posted her first fansly collab audio which is available to us if you know where to look for it. I may update the content thread when I get back from work if it hasn’t been updated already
 
Well I'd love to change the subject to something more interesting and less pointless drama, but Sinders content is still mediocre:PepeWhy:
 
I'm curious, how often does she post audios? I don't see them posted on her content thread often.
 
are you seriously relying on people not bothering to read that 1000 pages ass wipe to spread misinformation my guy. dude, that google dockey was ass, full of holes, and contradicts itself. people literally got confused reading that shit because sinder and her boyfriend confuses themselves even writing that shit. I know because I sit through all the multiple >10hrs streams of Rima going through the entire thing. that bitch fucking putting literal RRATs into her doc without proof and literally stated that it's her own RRATs, lmao.

Since nanoless dropped the new google dockey I've seen a lot of pyrocucks spreading misinformation or misrepresenting past events so I'll provide some of the information that clarifies all the bull:poop: pyrocucks are spreading:

1. Pyrocucks: SEE? EVEN THAT CUNT VIENNA ALSO NOW COMES OUTTO PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO SINDER!!!
-Answer: if any pyrocucks has bothered to read sinder's 1000 pages snooze fest. they would remember that sinder mentioned when the google dockey was first dropped on her, she tries to reach out to Bao and the others, but she was blocked everywhere. So sinder contacted a friend in the group who still remains neutral to ask if they can deliver her message to bao. that part was literally near the beginning of the 1000 pages ass wipe. pyrocucks claiming to be sinder's hardcore fans but didn't even bother reading her google dockey, lmao. At that time my thought was either this friend was Vienna or Tricky. as time passed, now we know it was vienna. she has always remain neutral in this thing and was on decent terms with sinder. she just only now made it more public for the last few months now that things have died down.

2. Pyrocuck: but, but, but, but... buffpuff literally admited on stream that she's known about the google dockey a week before it was dropped.
-answer: thank you for stating the obvious and memoryholing events to reframe things into your agenda. when the dockey dropped literally Bao and Shylily came on stream to corroborate this. at that time Bao just got back from korea after having surgery for her jaw and her deviated septum. when nanoless came to shylily with the initial google dockey,bao was still recovering at home from her surgery and the others was sitting on that information for a week before Bao has recovered enough to inform her.

3. Pyrocuck: but..but.. but, it was a coordinated attack! they all dropped all their dockeys at the same time!
-answer: YES! YES! OF COURSE IT'S COORDINATED. THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO EACH OTHER ABOUT THIS FOR A WEEK! Do you think streamers are gonna come out with a google dockey willy nilly without even asking people to proofread through it, asking other people's opinion about whether or not they should make it public, having second thoughts, doubting themselves? the thing about making a drama public is that from the position of a streamer, you never know how the public will react to the drama, whether or not if you are in the right or not. And it's scary, because streaming is your livelihood, you're literally risking your career everytime you get yourself involve in these kinds of shits. Even Bao mentioned in the stream when she was addressing the drama that the other girls would never come out with their own google dockey if Bao didn't come out with her own first. Because being the first high profile person to come out to a drama means that she would be the center of attention, and that means most of the harassments and death threats would be on her. which now that we know, is true, and that shit is scary.

4. Pyrocuck: but! but! but! but! clearly Bao and Shylily is scheming to take down Sinder to absorb her audience!!
-Answer: ermm... remind me again WTF did Bao do wrong in this drama? being backstabbed by sinder and making it public that she was backstabbed???? you would be right if Bao comes out with some make up bullshit and wrongly accused sinder of something she didn;t do. but this is not the case, is it. If your logic is that what Bao did is worse than all the bullcrap sinder pulled, then either you're being r*tarded, or just plain dishonest. also, Bao has been s**cidal months before this drama, then having a surgery, then getting through this betrayal and all the harrassment pyrocucks throws at her for the months to come, then having her family members basically in vegetable states. her streaming schedule has been spotty AF even before this drama started. girl didn't gain not shit from this aside from having pyrocucks up her ass.
-Shylily, on the other hand tho? You may got a point. she's been pretty sus from my POV. there's a high chance she's the person suggesting bao to expose sinder having a boyfriend. she claims she wants to do what's right by her friends but she never had her own google dockey. some nobody vtuber conveniently coming out accusing sinder of having a boyfriend. yeah, that's just too much of a coincidence. having somebody else to take the blunt to the potential backlash while keeping myself relatively safe and under a positive light. that's what I would do if I were in shylily's shoes. but that also requires her to not give a shit about Bao and the others too. so far, there's not any information to further back this theory up unfortunately.

5. Pyrocucks: I DON'T CARE! THIS IS HIGHSCHOOL DRAMA! THEY SHOULD HAVE KEEP IT PRIVATE!
-Answer: well this is the point where I may have agree with you just a little, they may have been better off keeping this private, but it's up to them eventually. I don't agree this is highschool drama. this shit involves sabotaging multiple people's career spanning several years with projects that cost thousands of dollars. If you have a friend who works for the same company. When there's an oppotunity for a promotion, your supposed "friend" starts talking shit to your manager behind your back, which ends up costing you your promotion and your career trajectory for the near future, does it still counts as HIGHSCHOOL DRAMA? because clearly it also involves being talking shit and sabotaging behind each other's back.
 
also to add, I think people may have been looking at the wrong direction regarding this. think about it, nobody would come out to apologize publicly unless either it was negotiated behind the scene first, or they are pressured by the public. clearly this has been discussed behind the scene between nanoless and sinder to finally come to an agreement that nanoless would come out with a public apology. I don't buy for a second Sinder's reaction of "not knowing that nano would apologize publicly".

-remember months prior, shylily also reached out to sinder privately to settle the case, since she's getting a lot of harassment and death threats from pyrocucks. they basically come to an agreement to apologize to each other to "keep the peace" privately. but when shylily tries to negotiate to have a joint public statement to reduce the harassment she's receiving, sinder basically said fuck you and refuse. clearly things usually gets discussed behind the scenes before anything gets made public.

-Now, the timing of the nanoless apology, the spite apology is too convenient. Think about it, Veibae came out of her hiatus and the first thing she does is mentioning wanting to collab with sinder and lucia. My RRAT here is all of this nanoless apology is just a stepping stone for a bigger plan. I don't watch lucia but from what I've read she's a pretty new vtuber but has been heavily promoted and having collabs with big names, people are speculating she might be an industry plant. So whoever is behind Lucia may be a coporate that has money and resource. something or someone is moving behind the scene, and their plan involves lucia, involves sinder, and involves veibae. nanoless may have been coerced, threatened, incentivised, negotiated, or a combination of all of the above to produce this public apology. WHY? I don't know. that may have been to be in good grace with this corpo, or they may have a lot of work and influence for nano. I wouldn'tbe surprised if months down the line some company comes out with a big project involving all these people.
 
Fot those TLDR-buds: timing too convinient, possible planed action

Whats the rule called? Hanlon's razor? Like " don't assume bad faith, if lazyness or stupidity are an option."?
That beeing said, I do see your points and I agree, that the timing is really questionable.
 
Guys can we instead talk about how good the tit shaking video she's gonna post might be instead? Hope we get to see it soon enough at least no matter what :PogTasty:
 
unfortunately I made a mistake of having most of the porn I consumed recently to be big tiddy girls, so it kinda temporary desensitized me to tiddies. I've been looking up mana rose recently since her shorts getting randomly flooded on my YT feed. girl got no boobs but she's got an insanely breedable ass tho.
 
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