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This is a discussion thread for RedsReferences, whose content thread can be found here: https://simpcityopen.com/threads/56207/
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So, she is once again complaining about not getting enough sales from her 10k+ subscribers, being bad at the business part of her job, and still making promises to go full nude/do "explicit" stuff if she gets enough (which from all I've seen of her should not be believed, IMO):
"Less than 1% of my subscribers on only fans purchased the latest video. This was my attempt at doing more explicit content per everyone's request. I see that this was probably not the best move for me seeing as it took a great deal of time and effort to put together. This does not include the expansion of my comfort zone and movement of my boundaries that were already established. So I would like to know where to go from here.
Does anyone have any recommendations to get more people on here? Or individuals interested in the content? I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do anymore.
I've had a few people who are surprised that I even have an Instagram. I do have an Instagram, I have every social media thing! Nothing seems to be working and I'm blocked on just about every platform. I'm having issues left and right getting my content spread. If people want to see me do explicit content, it would mean the world to me for them to help me bring more individuals to this platform. I think that's the only way we can reach 9%. We need more people, more eyes! I want this just as badly as you do. I just want to be able to make a living and be secure in knowing that pushing aside my artistic passions will be the right move. If we are able to reach 9%, I will be able to pour my all into only fans!"
In her latest videos she's apparently got a remote control vibrator inside her and another where she's getting a massage and getting "fingered". She also sells panties and "personal" vibrators. I'm putting my money towards creators who deserve it more, but just an update for y'all to do with as you will.
 
Not to be a dick, but for me, she overestimating her own value as a content creator. Don't give me wrong, as an artsy model she does an amazing job, her pictures are a work of art, but her content is too niche. Even her looks are, she's extremely androgynous, and that's not everyone's cup of tea either.
And I get annoyed by girls who try to pretend they're not doing adult content hiding behind a "I only do artistic modeling and suggestive material, but if you pay me enough I can show you my titties" kind of discourse. Just put the goods out to the world already lady, or don't, and keep selling baroque-esque photoshoots posing as a live painting if you want, but choose if you gonna be an e-slut for real or not. her uncertainty is obviously costing her money.
 
Not that I disagree with you, really, but I kinda feel let down by my fellow OF subscribers. She's given no indication that she'd welch on the 9% thing, her stuff is extremely affordable, and anybody subscribed to her OF obviously IS into her look, niche or not. I dunno, bummed it didn't happen and I guess it's not going to.
 
9% is just an unrealistic goal. the amount of people who engage with content online, in any capacity, is a diminishingly small percent that gets even smaller when you factor in money. for example, only 2% of users leave reviews on steam. i bet the amount of people who ever comment on this site is less than 1%. if she charged a subscription fee, then 9% might be doable because her userbase would be paying members, but i bet you'd be shocked at how many people on OF have either never spent money, or have done so only once or twice
 
I think she is a creator that deserves it. She's honest with her audience about her limits. She does cool stuff. And she does not over charge. Not sure what more you want.
She isn't hiding though. She is even saying exactly when she will become more explicit, that doesn't strike me as unreasonable. In fact, it seems like a nice policy.
I agree with you. She is one of the few creators whose content I never post to the forum because she is very small, doesn't charge much and clearly cares (perhaps more than is good for her mental health, but that's pretty part of the course for a lot of artsy types...no shade).
 
Yea she's genuinely probably the best creator I have followed on OF/Fansly. She's nice, she responds (and not with a bs agency or AI or some shit), she's honest (as far as I can tell), and she takes feedback really well. I can barely say 2 of these things for other creators I follow/have followed. Her stuff is also damn cheap for what we get, some creators charge 10x more for a 3rd of what she gives.
 
She's free on OF, which means lots of people subscribe just because, hey, why not, it's free. You can subscribe to someone for free and just completely ignore their content because it doesn't cost them anything to do so. So being a free creator means she's more likely to get further from her 9% goal as time goes on than closer.
 
That's fair, and prob something she would be responsive to if you point it out to her.
 
I like her personality/look and have bought a number of her sets. However, I agree that her lack of business accumen is hurting her and begging fans to do the heavy lifting for marketing and outreach rubs me the wrong way.
As others have said, I believe she is such a niche creator that a subscription model does make the most sense from a business perspective. The "free" model only works if you have high traffic and are offering something people do not want to miss out on. While her sets are elaborate and at times rather impressive they feel like they could be lost in a shuffle of the same on Instagram.
I truly want to see her succeed, but the 9% of free subscribers mark is never going to happen. Especially if she isn't genuinely trying to court an audience through live streams or other avenues which foster a connection past passive browsing.
 
The 9% is based on the number of subs she had at the time of setting the goal. She should stop saying it. 960 is the hard number.
 
I remember on twitter when she was proudly going on and on about never doing nudes or requiring there to be 20 thousand dollar payments for it. I mean the iron was hot she was the one that didn't pounce. To get capital going and word of mouth from inevitable leaks she should do a few expensive topless DM sets if that goes well then work up to a full nude. But the 9 percent all or nothing isn't really rewarding her current fans .
 
And that's exactly my point. The arrogance of saying: "you'll never see me naked" while selling content on OF, like she is better than the average e-thot, and now offering her nudes in exchange for more subscribers she's not getting any time soon. In the end everybody has a price, she's just charging way above her perceived value.
 
If anything, I think all that stuff makes it hotter lol and if there are conditions to seeing her naked, I appreciate that they're clear and sort of achievable
 
I don't even disagree but having known the art crowd this tracks . Others who were way less popular are sitting in houses they bought with OF money during the same time period. The only one holding her back is her glanced at her insta had to scroll down to a lone August post that even hinted she was about that spicy life so trying to serve two masters obviously isn't working the art beast or the muscle mommy choose a lane.
 
I just hope she'll actually get there, teasing is great, but teasing without end would give anyone blue balls.
 
Not the whole thing, there's a lot of inane bullshit.
She did spend a good amount of time dancing in tiny panties and pasties though.
Hopefully she does a solo stream at some point.
 
Didn’t anyone get a recording of the latest stream she did it topless like showing actual boobs
 
She just posted it to her OF. It is 6 bucks. Looks like they are wearing pasties, but given how cheap it is, I would encourage buying it.
 
Ima be honest and say that I found her like days ago on here. Even if her sub price is free, and the PPV is less than $10, that’s a meal right there, so asking fans to help spread the word after, from what I’ve read, having a pretty fan-active goal to do nudity doesn’t sit well with me. I hopped in the discussion to ask if she does nudity or not, but came across a goal I couldn’t solve on my own to see what I really hoped for from her.
She is gorgeous, and if you all are to be believed, she is one of the real ones on OF, so I hope her engagement and money meets that goal. But getting that support up isnt a goal for fans without direction, that would be the job of someone who really knows how to spread the word, which I REALLY hope won’t end up with her signing to an agency.
To sum this up, I hope something changes so she feels comfortable taking that step into nudity/explicit content within somehow selling herself short
 
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