Workflow Getting Started...How Do I Begin?

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I'm interested in creating some photos first, then maybe some videos, both replicating images and videos I already have, but this is all new to me. Not interested in signing up for a paid site yet. Starting with things like feet pics and upskirts. I'm curious to know where could I test out and create photorealistic material?
 
If you aren't interested in signing up for a paid site, the you have the free options, but if you want to create your own locally (just using your PC hardware) you NEED the hardware first, something Nvidia ideally with at least 12gb of VRAM (that isn't a 3060).

Best place to start is using Google Ai to help you along. I learned everything in a few weeks, how to create images, how to make a LORA, and how to make AI character with text to voice function, all through Google AI. You can actually use Google AI to help you build an Ai guide too using the software you're using.

It has that endless patience you need and can describe everything for you to understand, as there's a lot going on to get your head into like Temperatures and secondary Lora's to tailor detail. It can also provide you direct links for Command Prompt to download everything you need, without you having to go find, and accidentally download the wrong version, which does save time.
 
You mean the 10gb model over the 12gb 3080 ti if I remember correctly? The 3080 is fine to start off with, as there's a lot out there available to get you started off with that can fit on an 8gb VRAM GPU, so having the extra 2gb will help out a lot.

You can definitely learn a lot and have some fun with a 3080. It's actually a good place to be, as if you work within your VRAM, you will either know after the initial learning stage a 12gb GPU is suitable for your needs (like a 5070) or if you struggle hard to find what you need within a small model, that 12gb VRAM wouldn't work for you either, so you'd have to step up to a 5070 ti 16gb VRAM. Big difference in price these days sadly.

There's a HUGE amount to learn though and to get your teeth into. For instance a 7.5GB model can fit in the 8GB of VRAM a 3070 has, but the Ui and back end will also eat into the VRAM, and over filling your VRAM kills responsiveness.
 
got a unrelated question. How do you generate the same face and body for every promt like those AI profiles? do you need to build and train a LORA?
 
Yes, but sites like websites/apps like Kling can avoid having to make LORA'S simply by using reference images. I guess it's just their algorithms are highly trained to pick out facial details, but for home use, to generate an image without a reference, with a consistent face and body you'd need to build a LORA.

I'm not sure what the expression means to "train" a LORA however, as it doesn't learn to need training. You can't provide it feedback to correct itself. You just feed it images for it to work from. "Building" a LORA however is relatively simple comprising of images from as many angles as possible of your subject.
 
Hi folks, does anyone have any recommendations for software and models that can produce decent results with a 8GB 3070 Ti, and that are worth the effort for creating images and short videos like this, 3D or photorealistic ones? Should I use ComfyUI or are there simpler and good results producing new tools on GitHub?
 
ComfyUI is the most complicated, manual user interface you can use. It's not a good place to start as a beginner as you have every option available for you to tweak and therefore break, it's quite overwhelming at first.

Start with making images, using Stable Diffusion and something like Fooocus and experimenting how far you can go with that.

Especially with a 3070ti and 8gb VRAM. Experimenting will be slow, so learn the basics first and start small. The video creation is not something I've started on yet, but you'll see how how messy your images come out at first, with deformed fingers and eyes etc, videos will be the same.
 
Well the easiest I've found is with Runpod. Theres a user on civitai which has a runpod template which sets up everything ready. All you need to do is insert an image and change some settings add some loras and type in your prompt and run and you have a high quality video. The Template is called Yet another workflow. he has a full guide and also a video guide too. I have been getting decent results and have found H3 to be surprisingly prompt enhanced. I literally prompted it like grok and got okeyish results - for example with a starting picture of a womans face: instant cut to new scene, she is laying in bed fully naked holding her knees, big tits bouncing, pov a man is fucking her missionary, he is thrusting his dick deep inside her while she moans and looks at viewer.

I have been getting very good results like this although when prompting it correctly you can get way better results, especially with multiple shots
 
I just accomplished 6 months of self teaching.

There are two free sites I know of that I like that do what I like . . . that's pornworks and perchance. they are pretty damn accurate and powerful considering you learn to properly prompt. that was my first step. Once I could get the online webapps to give me what I want, I felt satisfied on that insight. Not saying there isn't more to learn, there is tons, and I am just starting out so, I use basic well written sentences to describe the general idea in one or two sentences. Then list details and use keywords separated by comma, for example.

Then I wanted to move on to learn more about the tech so I got a $150 ebay used EVGA GTX 1080TI. works perfectly for small models while keeping my budget way down. I can't see the point in paying more than retail no matter how good a GPU may be or new of a generation it is. I used LUMO to assist, prompting the (what I thought were the good) questions I needed to learn what I was trying to do. I run 32gb ram and its all ddr4, super cheap. NVME for fast OS speeds but I am using extra drives for large Model storage / Lora storage backup.

Got the hardware now so I set out to learn about LLM's and what the right terms were that I need to learn, know, understand, in order to guide me into the "ecosystem." Condsider the scope, I am only learning about image generation at this point. So my questions are quite specific. But I actually did start with text based LLM's, I run LM studio locally, with a nice model that is great with math and science, historical records, etc, it can code and it VERY good at it. I am using the Qwen3.5 9B Uncensored HauhauCS Aggressive model if you wanna know. Its good enough to get started I think.

So with that and LUMO, I was able to learn about what are frameworks, workflows, nodes, comfy UI, locally vs non local, difference between text gen LLM and image gen LMs . . . once I had a basic idea, I watched some youtube vids for a month or so, just to see what others are doing, and tbh, this wasnt so helpful here cause most people making guides and such, those vids were too old or software changed and I would get errors if followed along, and more impotantly they were too advanced and didnt explain the core basic stupid simple concepts that I lacked.

So I kept with the text LLMs and installed comfy UI and loaded my first model from RED-CIVIT.AI and it was a SD 1.5 model, to keep things small and easy for my GPU and also the workflow. It isn't as overwhelming as I initially thought, but only because I stuck with the more basic maps aka workflows. I use only the needed nodes and have nothing fancy going on. I didnt have expectations either as to what it was I was getting as an ouput. I just kept working around bugs, and software, installation issues, learning the ropes, using LUMO mostly because it can access the web and is more up todate - able to get latest updates on software, patches, changes, etc.

Most of my time so far has in fact been addressing properly creating the environments on my computer and keeping it all organized. Once I got the most basic setup working, running, I was able to start learning about the nodes, bugs I would have copying someone elses workflow, - that was a nightmare if complex btw, so I kept using LUMO to get me through that, using only the nodes neccessary to generate in SD 1.5, I have like 5 - 8 nodes or something iirc, um, the one with the lora I think. Maybe 6 nodes for just text to img ? I can't look now, I am actually training a lora right this moment. :D

So moving on, Once I got SD 1.5 down, I moved on to learning more about the different models, and what LORAs are, and styles or themes. Using Civit.AI, its quite easy to see what you get and they organize it well, so I stuck there for that. I found out what models and loras work for my GPU, I started downloading a few models for the few different architypes that exist, I have pony, krea2, SD 1.5, SDXL, Illustrious, so on and on, for each of those I got a few loras each, just a few, keeping directories clean and organized in a working VENV - this is for python in linux,

So then I learned and saved the most basic workflows for each model type - with / without lora, with / without img input along side text. So now I can use any of those models with and without loras to generate an image from text. Not to exclude learning about different ways to control the output, like UNET, text encoders, vae, and custom nodes.

I wanted to then train a character lora, so I set on about that, using LUMO to guide me again because it can access the net and has up todate information, I installed the training framework kohya_ss and got all that working, organized directory tree, etc . . . and am processing my V2 character lora this morning. I used for the first time this morning, my own lora I trained all night last night. Took 10 hours. Not bad I thought. So I asked again, how can I improve this after testing and using that lora. It works spot on but its powerful, too powerful in fact and has limited flexibility.

Making some adjustment to the initial training command, I am now running a training session to produce a more flexible lora but trained on the same dataset.

That is something I didnt mention, but I had to learn to create and process a dataset before training the lora . . . its just part of the process. There are of couse endless ways you can do this, but I chose a simple approach teaching me the core concepts, I am also using CLI not GUI so I get the extra experience with the terminal. It is more fluid and controllable, fine grain adjustment but a lil more complex to initially setup. You can use windows and kohya_ss but its a GUI and I am NOT using windows, like haven't been in over 10 years. Not going back now.

That said, I am very pleased with my progress as I do not listen to others bad advice when it comes to using AI as a guide, I ask folks and they all seem to have rather negative opinions about AI and I can see why, I also don't care so much for using Industry AI farms as they use lots of electricty, I like to use my local where I can. Just don't give up, use a tool, learn it well, and keep adding tools to your toolbox. Take everything someone says into consideration and don't be prejudice because you may lose out on something you could benefit from if you just hadn't looked away,

You will find what works for you and that is my advice.
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Wow thats impressive. I've spent I dont even know how many hours trying to learn stuff so I can run some NSFW AI programs locally on my PC but I understood about half the words and 5% of the content. Besides downloading and very briefly trying a bunch of the main programs (ollama, tried to set up nsfw uncensored chat kinda like crushon or juicychat and it took me 5 hours to get a very bad broken version of 1 chat bot lol), nowhere with LM studio or Comfyui etc.

Furthest I got was some pretty good faceswaps down, using FaceFusion through Pinokio. Whats the chances you wouldn't mind helping a semi-dull AI-challenged guy (with a decent PC setup) figure out how to set up and run any of this stuff? I mainly want to edit photos I already have in a NSFW/uncensored way, while generating them or videos is just a bonus. The chat stuff I wont even get into for now lol.
 
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